Sorry Arefa but this comment was unnecessary.. Women are abused all over the world including in India. No veil will protect a person against the ignorant subversion of a fundamentalist imbecile... If the there’s no monitoring and police doing their jobs, that’s what would happen to any society. On this case, Pakistanis (not all) hide behind religious hypocrisy and tribalistic costumes to behave like animals... as per fact, what they are...

I tend to remind people of separating cultural backgrounds of people from their religious beliefs but on this case, is a broken understanding of the holy words from Muhammad, that make ignorant Pakistanis (and others) to behave like that. This is a religious consequence, not cultural.

The fact that some of these ladies reported to Pakistani police, only to be abused by them also, make this cases an international concern. They are taken from their homes by Muslim mobs while sleeping. In some cases, any family member present are killed or obligated to watch it. They also receive death threats and in most of these cases it happens.

Pakistan is the best example of a country lost in contradiction and hope. There are so many civilised and well educated people but they are just a few to many ignorant fundamentalist pigs. Any men putting basic humanity morals below religion is an idiot. More I learn of Pakistanis and Afghans, less I like their Allah and more I realise that their God cannot be the same as mine. My God is merciful and condemn violence. it condemn rape. it condemn the abuse of Human rights.
My God is fair because it’s called Humanity.

I feel sorry for Pakistan. It was created with the best intentions but no guidance and will be dull to spent it’s existence as a failed experience. Pakistan will never experience fairness and true freedom as long has the religious concept attached to legislative system.

These people deserves better. They deserve real hope, not sharia misconceptions...

Thank you for the comment Arefa.

I agree with what you said.

I am sorry if I disagree with the Catholic remarks. There are not as much of sexual abuse as the media claims. Not legitimising real victims of isolate cases, there are plenty of opportunists using the church for a easy way to make money. The church’s clergy is guilty of homosexuality but again, between Humans, homosexuality is not a crime...

Sanwali, because it’s about women and most of the comments are by women. And the fundamentalists could care less about women.

I guess, the main difference was that in Canada, the criminal would be pursued and made accountable. In Northwest Pakistan, the victim end up stoned for not being a virgin. Sad but true and I am sure many Pakistanis want this changed for a better world.

Damn... and I used to be an altar boy before reaching the ”Age of Reason”...

Ta IC...

Not at all, Robbie. Perhaps in NZ you don’t have a problem with the priesthood, but we have had hundreds of lawsuits etc. against priests who molested young men and women.. so it’s not just homosexuality... but it’s def. pedophilia.

I agree with some of your comments Almaha... don’t be offended. To say that Shari’a law don’t prevail in Pakistan is to say that French don’t eat cheese. It don’t have to be written in constitution. Sharia law rules Pakistan and the local government is powerless against it. If you research further, you will understand that Pakistan North-West Frontier Provinces are only ruled by sharia law.

Please, feel free to look below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2958316.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7070640.stm

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2008/06/pakistan_sharia_threat.php

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/virginia-moncrieff/taliban-impose-sharia-in_b_155142.html

http://atheism.about.com/b/2003/08/06/sharia-in-pakistan.htm

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/52/009.html

http://www.survivalnet.org/articles/sharia.html

http://spoonfeedin.blogspot.com/2008/12/world-pakistantaliban-enforce-sharia.html

http://www.ww4report.com/node/6189

PS: Please contact me for more... I will be happy to clarify the nature of this problem.

Kind regards,

Robbie.

thanks for the great list, Robbie... will hang on to this for future reference.

Yes, nation master is a great site, isn’t? I still remember when it was created. question: when was the last national census done in Pakistan?

PS Almaha, I suggest you to read Nadia’s comments above.. she is a lady like yourself and she lives in Pakistan... She knows what is going on.

I am a fan of Islam. I say that because I have Muslim friends and they are amazing. I also have Jews and Christians and they all get well along because they are living far away of this turmoil.

They all agree that the problems related to rape in Pakistan in particular is related to religion. I am not targeting Muslims but instead the wrong use of this religion to justify crimes of sexual nature.

You are disagreeing of me because you are defensive and protective of your religion. It is not a direct attack to Islam at all... Is an attack to women. Living in Riyadh yourself, you cannot be blind and deny cases of mistreatment of women in your own backyard. Women being raped and them sent to death for ’adultery’... Don’t make me push papers about... I had enough of your denial.

If you want to live in the dark, please be my guest... but by convincing yourself of this dark nature of this society, won’t convince others of the same.

hmmm,,ok, sorry for butting in here, but I could not help it...
I think the problem here is that some Muslims maybe giving the wrong impression about Islam. In Islam, women don’t get stoned for being raped. Fact... there is nothing in Islam that justifies sexual assaults, and such criminals DO get punished in Islam...another fact... so, if u ever hear about someone killing a girl for being raped, keep in mind that he WILL probably (literally) burn in hell for doing that :D ... I love the sound of my last sentence... hehehe

Peace...

Wa’d, you are on track. I totally agree this is not natural of Islam. As I previously said many times, I see beauty to it. I believe it is action of people believing to be acting as willingness of Allah.

There are plenty of cases of Women being condemn and executed for being raped. Saudi’s lead the statistics undisputedly (Again, not all Saudi’s are guilty of crimes, I only explaining that cases of this nature happened more than once in Saudi Arabia).

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/68655/bush_refuses_to_condemn_saudi_court%E2%80%99s_punishment_of_gang_rape_victim/

Thanks for commenting...

I can’t tell about KSA, I don’t live there, and I’ve never been there... But from my general knowledge about it, I can tell you that NOT everything KSA does, and not every FATWA they issue has a correct origin in Islam...
so I guess we’re left with praying for women living in injustice all over the world... :)

Salam

Wa’d, You are a good guy. quite bright. I like conversations with you... I feel to have something to learn from this experience... let me put things this way...

Spirit = religion
Juice = culture

Islam = vodka
Jordan = tomato juice
Pakistan = orange juice

Vodka + tomato juice = Bloody Mary
Vodka + orange juice = screwdriver
Vodka + Vodka = fundamentalism

This formula is applicable to any religion.

Hmmm,, I’m not sure it’s applicable in any religion, cz... Islam and Vodka don’t go together...

Anyways, I’m not a good guy,, I am actually a good girl :D

 Well said Robbie.. problem is so many live in denial...  you constantly read about rape victims being whipped, jailed and punished while their rapers get off scott-free.   

Per statistics,,, not just Australia.

”Some of the commentators have remarked in a most stupid way ever possible.”

- Such as what? This article is about Pakistan only.

”Instead of opening their eyes and becoming aware of what’s happening in their country they are making rapes India-Pakistan issue.”

- But this article is about Pakistan and not any other country. I am not understanding what’s your point.

”In fact, statistics are being exchanged as if X number of rapes committed in a certain country makes Pakistanis to commit Y number of rapes in their country. In other words, if rapes are happening in other parts of world, the rapes should occur in Pakistan as well. Very sound justification, isn’t it?”

- Not at all.

”Anyway, it’s time to view the article in perspective it demands. It’s a crime associated with women.”

- Yes, so far you are on track...

”All steps should be taken to protect the dignity of women from being deflowered at the hands of sexual predators whether they are living in Pakistan, Canada or, for that matter, in any part of the world.”

- Yes, fair enough but this post is about Pakistan and not Canada. The title says ”194 rape cases in Karachi” and karachi is not in Canada.

... beside that, I am following you... thanks for sharing... (:

@Robbie Z

I hope you have read what some commentators have said on this post. Go through them once again and you will surely come to know why I was compelled to say what I have said. In brief, I am right on the track.

Thanks for following me.And yes, please don’t waste words.I mean reflect a bit before bombarding someone with words..ha..ha

chill mate... (:

We are just argumenting... bombarding is done with bombs... I just need clarification... (:

Peace out!

@Robbie NZ

In Robbie’s world bombarding appears to be done with words ..ha..ha.

Anyway ,a piece advice to U:Please read well before commenting.You didn’t bother to read what some commentators said on this post.

An application of mind is going to save commentators from being trapped in embarrassing situation.I don’t know why some commentators don’t have the patience to read the article/comments in proper light before presenting their views.I am saying so because it’s really a very hard thing to tackle these long comments devoid of substance.

What’s the point in demonstrating your ignorance to the whole world ? Ha..ha